Larry King Interview with Robert Atkins

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    Für die unter Euch, die des Englischen ausreichend mächtig sind, nachfolgend eine Abschrift des Interviews mit Dr. Atkins in der Larry King Show vom 06. Januar 2003, nur ein paar Monate vor seinem Unfalltod. Er hatte noch viel vor, wie man liest... Dort beantwortet er hochstpersönlich viele Fragen. Ich füge ebenfalls ein Foto an. Ebenfalls relativ kurz vor seinem Tod entstanden. Er war definitiv NICHT übergewichtigt. Jedenfalls nach meinen Standards.

    Gruß,
    Frank.
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    From CNN
    Larry King Interview with Robert Atkins
    Interview With Robert Atkins

    Aired January 6, 2003 - 21:00 ET


    LARRY KING, HOST: Tonight, Dr. Robert Atkins, the world's
    most controversial diet guru, criticized for years. He may
    have been right after all. He's here for the hour and he'll
    take your calls. Dr. Robert Atkins next on LARRY KING LIVE.
    It's always good to see him. We've been interviewing him
    many, many times over the years, locally in Miami,
    nationally on radio and now with us on television and radio
    via CNN. Dr. Robert Atkins is a cardiologist and founder of
    the Atkins Center for Complimentary Medicine. His books
    have been number one on the "New York Times" list often.
    His new book is "Atkins for Life." There you see its cover.
    "The Complete Controlled Carb Program for Permanent Weight
    Loss and Good Health."

    You can get him as well and reach him at the
    Atkinscenter.com on his Web site or get the book, or
    whatever. He has become internationally famous. Always very
    controversial. Now a lot of medical institutions are saying
    that maybe he was right.

    First, let's get an update on your own health. I know that
    you had a cardiac arrest a year ago. What happened and how
    are you?

    DR. ROBERT ATKINS: Well, it didn't last very long. And then
    I continued to get better and better and played a lot of
    tennis. And I'm probably in better health than I've been in
    the past 10 years.

    KING: What was it that happened to you, though?

    ATKINS: We don't know, but I know that I had an infection
    in my heart, and it caused an arrhythmia and so it must
    have been an arrhythmia that sort of took off, and that was
    it.

    KING: Not related to your diet?

    ATKINS: Definitely not. You don't catch an infection from
    my diet. But this was an infection.

    KING: How in the world does a cardiologist in a world of we
    hate fat and high cholesterol, worry about all those
    things, suddenly turn the opposite route? How did that
    happen?

    ATKINS: Well, it was really very simple. I needed to go on
    a diet back in 1963. I was gaining a lot of weight. Yes, I
    was practicing cardiology, but I was gaining weight. And
    there was an article in the AMA journal that said, by the
    way, you don't have to go on a low calorie diet, you can go
    on a low carbohydrate diet. And I thought, oh, how
    wonderful that is. So I went on a diet. It was very, very
    exciting. And I not only lost a lot of weight very easily,
    but I needed a lot less sleep. I used to need eight and a
    half hours sleep, and by the end of two months, I needed
    five and a half hours sleep, which, by the way, for the
    last 40 years, that's about all I needed.

    So it really changed my energy level and it changed a lot
    of things. And so I decided to put other people on it.

    KING: And the rest is history. Explain to me something...

    ATKINS: Yes, I'd say that.

    KING: We need carbohydrates, do we not? We must have
    carbohydrates in our system.

    ATKINS: A lot of people don't need carbohydrates.

    KING: Don't need any?

    ATKINS: Well, certainly the people way up in the northern
    Alaska where they don't grow carbohydrates manage to
    survive. So obviously you can survive without
    carbohydrates. Carbohydrates are valuable because of many
    of the things that they contain. So our diet really is not
    a zero carbohydrate diet.

    KING: You take carbohydrates?

    ATKINS: I eat a lot of vegetables. And those are the most
    valuable carbohydrates. But from the very beginning we had
    to focus on what are the healthy carbohydrates and stay
    away from the unhealthy ones.

    KING: All right. Let's get the most important. What are
    some things you will not consume? What are unhealthy
    carbohydrates?

    ATKINS: Well, basically, it's about refined carbohydrates.
    That's sugar and flour, those are the refined
    carbohydrates.

    KING: That means you do not eat bread?

    ATKINS: We now eat bread because we make bread without
    refined carbohydrates.

    KING: Mean we -- you mean, you make your own bread?

    ATKINS: A lot of companies make low carbohydrate bread now.
    Certainly we're one of them.

    KING: So that's what you would recommend, low carbohydrate
    bread?

    ATKINS: Yes. At various times. Now, we start off -- when
    people start the diet, we start off very strict. And a lot
    of people have felt, oh, that strict first two weeks of the
    diet, that's the whole diet. They don't realize that the
    diet is a 70-year diet. KING: But you do allow...

    ATKINS: And who cares about two weeks when you're on it for
    70 years.

    KING: You do allow steaks and chops and...

    ATKINS: All of the main courses. Seafood, chicken...

    KING: Sauces?

    ATKINS: Depends on the sauce. Depends on what is in it. And
    certainly cheese and eggs and meat as well, because all of
    those foods are without carbohydrates, basically.

    KING: So enriched flour, if you cut out enriched flour...

    ATKINS: Which we do.

    KING: If everybody watching this show stopped all enriched
    flour and all sweets, all -- like we're talking about
    candies, right?

    ATKINS: Right.

    KING: Enriched flour, chocolates, candies, stopped it, they
    would lose weight? No matter what they ate?

    ATKINS: No, it doesn't -- no, they have to -- some people
    wouldn't. But everybody would be healthier. Everyone would
    be healthier if they didn't eat junk food. That's what junk
    food is.

    There were times, if we go back 100 years, we found out
    that people in our country ate the same amount of protein,
    fat and carbohydrate that they eat now, that they ate 30
    years ago, but there wasn't a single heart attack. First
    heart attack didn't come until 1912. The difference was 100
    years ago we did not eat much in the way of refined
    carbohydrates. We didn't eat much sugar or much flour.
    That's what changed. That's what caused the whole epidemic,
    that's what caused the whole 20th century group of
    illnesses.

    KING: But when you eat a cheeseburger, you don't eat the
    roll.

    ATKINS: That's for sure. I don't even let them give me a
    roll.

    KING: But you would eat the cheeseburger.

    ATKINS: Yes, with a fork.

    KING: OK. But how about the concept that every cardiologist
    I had to talk to, and I've had heart disease, so I know --
    I mean, I had a heart attack and heart surgery -- says fats
    are bad because fat -- obviously, when you think of a fat,
    it builds plaque, plaque is what constricts the system.
    Bang, you're in trouble.

    ATKINS: Well, that's what they say. But on the other hand,
    there is a lot of evidence that shows that all of that
    thing about fat was done on studies where there was a lot
    of carbohydrate. Now, when there is a lot of carbohydrate,
    your fat takes a different metabolic pathway than when
    there is very little carbohydrate. When there is a lot of
    carbohydrate, fat turns into triglyceride, which is bad for
    your heart, and that's a bad thing. But when you don't eat
    carbohydrate, then it turns into energy.

    KING: So in other words, you have the steak but you don't
    have the bread. That's a whole different concept occurring
    in your system.

    ATKINS: And you don't have the potatoes either, for that
    matter.

    KING: Here is about getting respect. Listen to this, "The
    New York Times" magazine article in July of 2002, by the
    way, you made the cover of "TIME" magazine.

    ATKINS: Yes?

    KING: They don't leave Atkins out.

    ATKINS: I know that now.

    KING: Here is what the "New York Times," July 2002. "If the
    members of the American medical establishment were to have
    a collective finding yourself standing naked in Times
    Square type nightmare, this might be it. They spent 30
    years ridiculing Robert Atkins, accusing the Manhattan
    doctor of quackery and fraud, only to discover that the
    unrepentant Atkins was right all along." Now, the article
    didn't say it was right, but it suggests you were right,
    but suggested the possibility that you were right. Do you
    have a feeling of I told you so?

    ATKINS: Sure. I've had that feeling all along.

    KING: But now that you've got...

    ATKINS: Finally, finally somebody has now recognized that
    there were so many studies which confirmed what I've said
    and no studies which ever let them come to the conclusion
    that the opposition has come to.

    KING: The argument against you, wasn't it, Bob, that you
    were doing all these things without any clinically approved
    studies until later on? (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

    ATKINS: Well, I would never do a study because I'm a
    practicing physician. I mean, all I do is treat people.

    KING: But you funded the study at Duke?

    ATKINS: Yes, but it was a long time before I was able to do
    that. And so for many, many years, I had to rely on
    everybody else's studies. It was everybody else's studies
    that got me to go on my diet in the first place.

    KING: But didn't everybody else's studies say don't eat
    fat? ATKINS: No, they didn't do that when they looked at
    low carbohydrate intake. All of the studies that said don't
    eat fat were done with diets where there was a lot of fat
    and a lot of carbohydrate. That's completely different.

    KING: We're going to be taking a lot of calls for Robert
    Atkins tonight. His new book is "Atkins for Life: the
    Complete Controlled Carb Program for Permanent Weight Loss
    and Good Health." You can get to him at the
    atkinscenter.com as well on the Web site. We'll be talking
    with him and taking a lot of phone calls for Dr. Atkins.
    We'll be right back.

    (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

    KING: We're back. We'll be going to calls shortly for Dr.
    Robert Atkins. You funded -- the foundation you head funded
    research done at Duke; 120 overweight volunteers, randomly
    assigned to follow the Atkins diet or the American Heart
    Association diet.

    ATKINS: Right.

    KING: The data on the 63 participated reported Atkins
    participants on an average lost more weight, lowered bad
    cholesterol and increased good cholesterol.

    However, Dr. Dean Ornish, a critic of yours, knows this was
    only a six-month study, that the heart association diet was
    not very low in fat or simple carbs and only Atkins
    patients were given fish oil and flaxseed oil, which
    automatically lowers triglycerides. How do you react to
    that?

    ATKINS: Well, of course, none of that is really the case.
    And point of fact, our diet took off 31 pounds against 20
    pounds that the comparison diet did. The triglycerides
    dropped 49 percent on our diet and only 22 percent on the
    others and the good cholesterol went up 12 percent on ours
    and didn't go up at all on the American Heart Association
    diet.

    KING: Do you use fish oil? Is that part of your...

    ATKINS: Fish oil was used but it was used in a very small
    quantity. Now what's more important is that the
    triglycerides have been lowered on this diet going all the
    way back to 1966. And in every study it has been dropped
    something like 50 percent or pretty close to it when it's
    low. And fish oil was not used. It's quite true that fish
    oil is in my view the No. 1 therapy for lowering
    triglycerides. But even without it, you get the result from
    the diet.

    So that is not -- is just not true. As far as how many
    people -- well, six months is pretty long. But I can tell
    you this, I've treated tens of thousands of patients for a
    lot more than six months. A lot of them have come back 10
    and 20 years later and I can tell you this, that their lab
    work gets better and better the longer they stay on it.

    KING: Now we hear that critics I'm told will admit that you
    have short-term weight loss, great results with short-term
    weight loss but they worry about the long-term health
    impact.

    ATKINS: They do indeed but there is no reason to. Why would
    anybody worry about it when -- six months is a long time.
    And in mainstream medicine, when people are on a diet,
    after about six months things don't look so well. But on
    our diet they continue to lose as long as you stay on it.

    KING: The American Journal of Kidney Diseases, August of
    2002, said people on your diet lose large amounts of
    calcium in the urine, 65 percent higher than normal, 55
    percent in maintenance, possibly could lead to
    osteoporosis.

    ATKINS: Well, the calcium loss is very short-term. After
    about two weeks, there is -- the calcium level back to
    normal. So that's a short-term abnormality.

    KING: Is part of your diet a lot of vitamins?

    ATKINS: Well, that's what I like it to be. In the book it
    doesn't really demand a lot of vitamins. People read the
    book, may just take one or two types of vitamins a day. If
    they went to my practice in New York, I would give -- and
    doesn't have to be my diet, could be anybody. I just know
    that vitamin therapy is a great alternative to drug
    therapy.

    KING: And medicine fought that a long time, didn't they?

    ATKINS: They're still fighting that. We're not talking
    about that because as far as the diet is concerned, if --
    see, everybody benefits from vitamins. Doesn't make any
    make any difference what diet they're on. You take the
    healthiest diet in the world, if you gave those people
    vitamins, they would be twice as healthy. So vitamins are
    valuable. Nonetheless, the diet doesn't require vitamins
    any more than any other diet.

    KING: Are a lot of the substitutes very good? There are
    chocolates -- you tasted some before the show -- that are
    low in carbs.

    ATKINS: Yes, there's a lot of that. Oh, yes, they're
    delicious.

    So that -- but what this really means is there is a whole
    new generation now. Before when people went on my diet and
    they have to stay on it for life, at least the low carb
    lifestyle so that at least they stay enough in carbs that
    they don't gain it back, but they had to not have any
    candy, they couldn't have any bread they couldn't have any
    ice cream and things like that.

    KING: That's terrible.

    ATKINS: But now they're there are many, many companies that
    are putting out low carb versions of high carb foods.
    Because of it, it is so easy now to stay on a low carb
    lifestyle, which is exactly what millions of people are
    doing.

    KING: Are some under risk switching to low carb? ATKINS:
    Very few people. I would say it shouldn't happen to a
    pregnant woman or a woman who is feeding her infants. It
    shouldn't happen to a person who already has kidney
    disease. But a few statements like that which we make, but
    basically other than that, very, very few people get in
    trouble from carbohydrate restriction.

    KING: We'll take calls in the next segment. A lot of calls
    tonight. Give me an Atkins day, what you eat. In the
    morning. Typical.

    ATKINS: I like to have omelets, maybe with -- would either
    be an omelet or scrambled eggs.

    KING: cheese omelet?

    ATKINS: Wonderful. I'll have that a lot of times or with
    sausage...

    KING: Bacon with it.

    ATKINS: Or bacon or ham or something of that nature. And no
    side dishes...

    KING: My cardiologist just -- OK, go ahead.

    ATKINS: But they shouldn't.

    KING: OK. I know.

    ATKINS: Because the evidence doesn't allow them to come to
    that conclusion. All of the studies show a low carb diet
    helps the cholesterol, is dramatically beneficial for the
    triglycerides and helps the HDL compared to the LDL, the
    good compared to the bad cholesterol.

    KING: Lunch?

    ATKINS: Oh, well, lunch I may just -- depends where I'm
    having it. If I'm in the office, I'm just going grab some
    nuts because I haven't got time for it.

    KING: Nuts are OK?

    ATKINS: Or I may have a bacon cheeseburger without the bun.

    KING: You eat nuts? Like macadamia nuts?

    ATKINS: Absolutely.

    KING: Aren't they high in fat?

    ATKINS: They're very low in carbohydrate. They're perfect.
    And you have to understand that in the lifestyle, I'm on my
    lifestyle, I don't have to lose any more weight, I just
    want to keep from gaining it, which is tough enough, but it
    does allow me to eat an awful lot of vegetables, a lot of
    nuts and seeds. I can eat 60 to 80 grams of carbohydrate a
    day and in the book, my new book we talk about that. I just
    don't have to like tofu but I can have it.

    KING: What's an Atkins dinner?

    ATKINS: Well, now you're talking about my wife who is such
    a great cook.

    KING: She'll cook?

    ATKINS: She has incredible fish, incredible fowl and all
    kinds of meat, rack of lamb, lambchops.

    KING: Eat the fatty part of lambchop too?

    ATKINS: Yes, I eat the -- yes, I eat that. And just with a
    lot of vegetables.

    KING: Any potatoes?

    ATKINS: No, not the potatoes but an awful lot...

    KING: How about a sweet potato?

    ATKINS: Rarely. I may take a bite of that but basically I
    just have a lot of vegetables and mostly the green ones and
    I eat about as many vegetables as the average vegetarian, I
    would think.

    KING: Dr. Atkins. The book is "Atkins For Life: The
    Complete Control Carb Program for Permanent Weight Loss and
    Good Health." You can get him at the Web site, too.
    Atkinscenter.com and you can talk to him right after these
    words.

    (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

    KING: We're back with Dr. Atkins. We'll start taking your
    phone calls. I'll intersperse some questions as we go
    along. We start with Farmington, Connecticut. Hello.

    CALLER: Hello, Dr. Atkins, I've been following your plan
    for two years. I'm actually in the maintenance part of the
    plan. I have -- I take it only between 25 to 35 to 30 grams
    of carbs a day. That's all my body can handle. And I've
    gained a little weight. I stay within the five pounds, like
    you've said, but I've gone -- I'm hitting that 10-pound
    marker. I've gone back to induction and I am finding it's
    not working for me. What can you suggest?

    ATKINS: Well, we really have to find out why. Are you on
    any medications or any hormones or anything like that?

    CALLER: Nothing at all.

    ATKINS: Nothing at all. Then the next thing -- see, the
    main reason that people get stuck is because of
    medications. This is the thing that really gets them in
    trouble.

    The second most important thing is the possibility of a
    thyroid not being functioning as well as it should. Even if
    your thyroid blood tests come out normal, there is still
    one other thing that you have to look at. That would be
    your temperature. Thyroid regulates your temperature. And
    if your temperature is considerably below 98.6 when you
    average it for the whole day -- you take it before
    breakfast, lunch, dinner and bed time -- and if it comes
    out about 97.8 or lower, there is a good possibility that
    you should be taking thyroid, and -- which would require a
    prescription, require you seeing a doctor and having them
    agree with it.

    KING: Why are so many people overweight?

    ATKINS: Oh, that's so easy to explain. Back in 1970, we
    didn't have a lot of obesity, but then it started to
    increase. Now, this is what happened. In 1970, 40 percent
    of our diet was fat. And by 2000, it became 32 percent of
    our diet. But in those 30 years, according to the U.S.
    government, there was an increase in the intake of sugar
    per person by 30 pounds per year.

    KING: That includes bread, right?

    ATKINS: No, sugar.

    KING: But bread ...

    ATKINS: Bread comes next. Bread and other starches of that
    -- of grains went up 64 pounds per person.

    KING: In other words, we ate more wrong food.

    ATKINS: Of course. Because everybody heard low fat, low fat
    low fat, they had to eat more carbohydrates. That's what
    caused the epidemic.

    KING: Boston, hello.

    CALLER: Hi, Dr. Atkins?

    ATKINS: Yes.

    CALLER: Hi. about a year ago, exactly a year ago I started
    cutting out sugar and white flour and lost over 100 pounds,
    went down 10 sizes, and I have noticed -- and I have
    noticed that a lot of like Suzanne Somers is following you
    and she attributes you being the guru.

    ATKINS: Yes, I saw her today. Yes.

    CALLER: How do you feel about other diets and other diet
    books that are now attributing you to being the guru?

    ATKINS: Well, I think that's good. I think -- I think my
    book, next one is coming out, "Atkins for Life" is going to
    be very similar to what Suzanne Somers has done, which --
    because we're talking about the maintenance of a lifestyle,
    keeping the weight off now that you've lost it.

    KING: That's harder than losing sometimes, isn't it?
    ATKINS: It has been, but it shouldn't be because the diet
    is actually easier -- maintenance diet is easier to follow
    than weight loss diet, but for some reason people just go
    off their diet and they have got to learn that.

    KING: Moline, Illinois for Dr. Robert Atkins. Hello.

    CALLER: Dr. Atkins, I'm a type II diabetic. Can I safely be
    on this diet?

    ATKINS: It's the optimal diet for a diabetic. The main
    thing that I want to accomplish in life is putting an end
    to the epidemic of diabetes and obesity, which I call
    diabesity. That's really my number one function in life in
    this next few years of mine.

    KING: What percentage of your patients are either heart
    patients or diabetic patients or both?

    ATKINS: Oh, I would say between the diabetes and the heart
    patients, about 60 percent now. Absolutely.

    KING: To Milton, Wisconsin. Hello.

    CALLER: Hi. I've been on the Atkins way of life for four
    and a half months. I'm down over 30 pounds. But my blood
    pressure is up and I was wondering why this might be
    happening.

    ATKINS: Well, that's very unusual, because it has been
    shown by study after study and by our own experience as
    well that restricting carbohydrates will drop the blood
    pressure. So it's very unusual. You have to find out what
    other than the diet could be responsible for that.

    KING: The chief form of carbohydrates that you take come in
    what?

    ATKINS: Mostly vegetables. And nuts and seeds. Nuts and
    seeds and vegetables.

    KING: Cashew nuts?

    ATKINS: That's the one I shouldn't have. That's the highest
    one in carbohydrates.

    KING: What's a good nut, macadamia?

    ATKINS: That's the best. And I eat a lot of macadamia nuts.

    KING: Why is it the best?

    ATKINS: Well, I guess because it's the lowest in
    carbohydrate and also because it tastes the best and
    because macadamia nut butter is so good, and I mix it with
    heavy cream and that becomes my dessert. That's what I...

    KING: Macadamia nut butter with heavy cream? ATKINS: And I
    stir it together, takes about 20 seconds, and then that's
    my dessert.

    KING: Dayton, Ohio, hello.

    CALLER: Hi. I have a 13-year-old daughter and I was
    wondering how safe it would be for her to be on the diet?

    ATKINS: I'm so glad you asked. Absolutely. As a matter of
    fact, children who are overweight should start on the low
    carbohydrate lifestyle as soon as they become overweight so
    they don't get into these bad habits. But at the age of 13,
    it is absolutely mandatory. How overweight is she?

    CALLER: Oh, about 15 to 20 pounds.

    ATKINS: Well, that's an easy thing. That means you should
    be able to get her back to her ideal weight within five or
    six weeks.

    KING: Really?

    ATKINS: Right.

    KING: We'll be right back with more of Dr. Robert Atkins.
    His new book is "Atkins for Life: the Complete Controlled
    Carb Program for Permanent Weight Loss and Good Health."
    Example of someone losing weight, Sarah Ferguson, the
    duchess of York is here tomorrow night. Don't go away.

    (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

    KING: Dr. Atkins said if you're going to drink, moderation
    and if you had to pick one drink it would be red wine,
    right?

    ATKINS: Red wine is a very good choice.

    KING: Chicago, hello.

    CALLER: Hi there, Dr. Atkins.

    ATKINS: Yes.

    CALLER: I'd like to understand whether or not alcohol has a
    large impact on your diet.

    KING: Just asked about alcohol. Does it have a large
    impact?

    ATKINS: It has a medium-sized impact. A lot of alcohol has
    a large impact. But a little bit is usable.

    We don't like to start people off with alcohol. We want to
    get the thing started, but then for the ongoing weight loss
    phase or the premaintenance or maintenance phase, which is
    the rest of your life, we certainly would allow a moderate
    amount of alcohol. Not the sweet ones.

    KING: Unsweet is like, what, vodka?

    ATKINS: Yeah, scotch, vodka.

    KING: Do alcoholics tend to gain weight?

    ATKINS: Some do and some don't.

    KING: Hartford, Connecticut, hello.

    CALLER: Hi, Dr. Atkins.

    ATKINS: Yes.

    CALLER: I have a question about keatosis(ph).

    ATKINS: OK.

    CALLER: I've been on induction for three weeks and I've
    only been able to reach 15 milligrams on a keytone (ph)
    stick and I want to know how can I accelerate the process
    of keatosis?

    KING: What is keatosis?

    ATKINS: Keatosis means that she -- you put in a stick and
    check your urine and you see it has keytones in it.

    KING: And you want them in it?

    ATKINS: I really do, but it isn't really necessary. You can
    have keytones come out and not appear in your urine and you
    would say, Gee, I don't have keytones. But in point of fact
    you -- are you losing weight?

    CALLER: I lost seven pounds in three weeks.

    ATKINS: So it's still working. So you don't have to worry
    if you can continue to lose -- how many pounds do you have
    to lose all together?

    CALLER: A hundred.

    ATKINS: Oh, 100. Are you taking any medications?

    CALLER: Just sinthroid (ph) for my thyroid.

    ATKINS: All right. The probability is is that sinthroid is
    not the best choice of thyroid. The probability is that you
    need a balanced thyroid where you're getting T3 as well as
    T4 or a natural form of thyroid and it's also highly
    probable that you're not taking the right amount.

    KING: Can you reverse heart disease?

    ATKINS: Well, we reverse heart disease all the time. That's
    what we do.

    KING: That I'm told is impossible. I mean, you can control
    it, but you can't reverse it. You can't make someone who...

    ATKINS: Well, a lot of people who have been told that they
    need bypass, come to us and we do a lot of things beyond
    the diet. I must say, we use an awful lot of powerful
    vitamin -- vitanutrients.

    KING: Oh you do?

    ATKINS: And there actually are some vitanutrients that are
    better than drugs because they don't have any bad side
    effects.

    KING: Did you say you can avoid bypass surgery?

    ATKINS: Well, we've done it hundreds and hundreds of times.
    People have come to us and...

    KING: And you take the blockage away?

    ATKINS: Well, we took away the symptom complex and the
    cardiologists who are -- told them they needed a bypass re-
    evaluated and said, Well, I guess you don't because
    everything is OK now.

    KING: Sedona, Arizona, hello.

    CALLER: Hi. Dr. Atkins...

    ATKINS: Yes.

    CALLER: I was wondering if you're familiar with the eat
    right for your type diet of Dr. Peter Dodomo, which is
    based on blood types.

    ATKINS: Well, I know a little bit about it. I know about
    the role of blood types.

    CALLER: Well, I'm curious what you think about that because
    he says that the Type O very similar to yours...

    ATKINS: Right.

    CALLER: But for, like, types A and B, he says they can't
    digest animal proteins and they should stay away from those
    and maybe have more carbs. I just wondered what you think
    about blood type and diet.

    ATKINS: That can't be really because such a high percentage
    of people, we're talking about 99 percent of people, go on
    our diet and succeed with it. And this means that just
    about every blood type is included in the group that
    succeeds on it.

    KING: Warren, Michigan, hello.

    CALLER: Yes.

    KING: Go ahead.

    CALLER: Hi. I wanted to know -- I know you can eat eggs and
    protein on your diet. Why not any milk? ATKINS: Well, milk
    has got lactose in it. Whenever you hear a word with ose,
    that's a sugar. So there is sugar in milk. And that's...

    KING: Skim milk, too?

    ATKINS: More so. Skim milk has even more because it doesn't
    even have cream in it. So cream is about the one thing that
    the cow puts out that doesn't have carbohydrate.

    KING: If you would have -- you don't have cereal, do you?

    ATKINS: Well, there are low some carbohydrate cereals now.

    KING: You put sweet cream on it?

    ATKINS: And I mix it with heavy cream, yes, I do, sir.

    KING: It sounds..

    ATKINS: Delicious.

    KING: It sounds fattening. Oh, it's delicious. What's
    better than sweet cream, man?

    ATKINS: OK.

    KING: But, you see, if it is that good it can't be good for
    you, right?

    ATKINS: It is pretty good for me.

    KING: OK. I'll buy.

    ATKINS: Helps my tennis.

    KING: Branchville, New Jersey, hello.

    CALLER: Hi, Dr. Atkins. I was wondering if you miss eating
    fresh fruit?

    KING: Ah-ha.

    ATKINS: Ah-ha. Well, I don't because I eat an awful lot of
    berries. Berries are on my...

    KING: Bluberries are a good food, right?

    ATKINS: Blueberries are excellent. But then, I eat all the
    berries. Just this morning I had four different kinds of
    berries and then melon is good and then I'll have a bite
    of...

    KING: So fruits are good?

    ATKINS: Fruit is definitely on the maintenance diet. It's
    on the lifestyle diet. KING: Williamsburg, Virginia, hello.

    CALLER: Hi, Atkins. I'm a Weight Watcher representative and
    I wondered what you thought about -- do you not believe
    that denying people normal carbohydrates on a daily basis
    will eventually make them feel deprived, causing them
    excess frustration and even causing them to go off their
    diet completely because they haven't had those normal
    carbohydrates such as pastas and rice and potatoes and
    things that people really enjoy?

    ATKINS: I think it's just the opposite.

    CALLER: What about just eating in moderation?

    ATKINS: I think when one looks at the long-term effect of
    people who have been on Weight Watchers, such a high
    percentage of those people gain back the weight, the reason
    being no one wants to be hungry for a lifetime. Where as
    with our diet, you're never hungry because you're not
    allowed to be hungry. You just not allowed to keep your
    quantities that small.

    And so it's a better deal for almost everybody. They would
    rather eat enough food that they're not hungry and that is
    delicious and it is -- all of these foods that you talk
    about, there are low carbohydrate versions of 90 percent of
    them so that people are able to enjoy all of those foods.
    It is a rare, rare person who doesn't like to stay on
    Atkins.

    KING: Ada, Ohio, hello.

    CALLER: Hi, Dr. Atkins.

    ATKINS: Hi.

    CALLER: I'm a letter carrier and I walk 12 to 15 miles a
    day and I was on your diet. I lost two to three pounds a
    day the first two weeks. It scared me to death so I...

    ATKINS: Well, you had to have lost water then.

    CALLER: Was that all it was, water?

    ATKINS: No, not all it was was water but, I mean, there was
    some water along with a lot of fat that you lost.

    CALLER: OK, because I've been carrying mail for four years
    and that's why I was wondering.

    ATKINS: Well, but it shows how effective the diet is. How
    many pounds did you have to lose altogether?

    CALLER: Well, I wanted to lose 50 pounds maybe.

    ATKINS: Well, all right, so you got a good start but
    eventually you'll switch on to ongoing weight loss anyway
    and you'll get to the point where you only lose one pound a
    week. KING: But the diet is in stages, right? As you
    explain it...

    ATKINS: The diet is in four stages. The induction works
    very fast but you don't stay on it very long. It is just to
    get things started.

    KING: Then there's a...

    ATKINS: Then ongoing weight loss is really where you find
    out what your critical carbohydrate level for losing is.
    And it is a different level for different people.

    KING: How important is exercise?

    ATKINS: Exercise is important to everybody whether they
    diet or not. I don't think there is ever a person that says
    exercise is not good for people. Everybody agrees with
    that.

    KING: But is it essential?

    ATKINS: Well, if you can't exercise, you'll still lose
    weight, but it's extremely valuable to be healthy.

    KING: We'll be back with Dr. Robert Atkins and more on his
    new book "Atkins For Life." A lot more of your phone calls.
    Don't go away.

    (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

    KING: We're back with Dr. Robert Atkins. I'm Larry King.
    The caller is from Saline, Michigan. Hello.

    CALLER: Hi, Larry.

    KING: Hi.

    ATKINS: How did dr. Atkins explain the fact that the best
    marathoners in the world that have maybe 5 percent body fat
    eat diets that are 65 percent to 70 percent complex
    carbohydrates?

    ATKINS: Well, that's perfectly fine because these people --
    there is no reason you shouldn't do that if you're that
    active. That's an incredibly active way to go through life.
    Those would be -- that would be one group of people who
    wouldn't need to be on my diet although studies have been
    done showing that people who, let's say were cyclists, that
    they went on my diet to see if -- how their speed would
    work. And for about two weeks, they ran behind and then at
    the end of two weeks, they were just as good as ever.

    So that we know that the -- and that's just the
    introduction to the diet. So that once you've been on the
    diet more than two weeks, you're able to handle things.

    KING: Ashland, Kentucky, for Dr. Atkins. Hello.

    CALLER: Hi, Larry. KING: Hi.

    CALLER: Hi, Dr. Atkins.

    ATKINS: Hi.

    CALLER: Is it possible to lose too much weight on your
    diet?

    ATKINS: I guess it's possible, but I wouldn't think very
    many people would do that.

    KING: You can get -- you can do the reverse of bulimia,
    right? Or you can -- or could you -- not the reverse, could
    you come bulimic. Could you suddenly start to say, I love
    it, I'm going waste away to nothing, I'm going to be buried
    in the box the pills came in.

    ATKINS: Well, I've treated about 40, 000 people who were
    overweight and I never had that happen yet. So it has to be
    a pretty rare event.

    KING: OK. Aurora, Illinois, hello.

    CALLER: Hello. Hi.

    I have just had a baby two and a half months ago and
    wondered why it wasn't safe for me to do the Atkins diet.

    ATKINS: Well, it is safe for you to do the maintenance
    level of the diet. But you don't want to give the keytones
    to an infant if you're feeding them breast milk.

    KING: And she would be getting the keytones from what?

    ATKINS: From being on a strict version of the diet. But you
    wouldn't be getting them if you're just on a low
    carbohydrate maintenance level.

    KING: Rushville, Ohio, hello.

    CALLER: Hi, Larry.

    KING: Hi.

    CALLER: Hi, Dr. Atkins.

    ATKINS: Hi.

    CALLER: I'm 35 years old and had my kidney removed shortly
    after birth.

    ATKINS: OK.

    CALLER: I had gone to my doctor to get permission to go on
    the Atkins diet and test my kidney function and it was
    fine.

    After two weeks of the induction diet, I went into a kidney
    infection. Is there a modified version of the induction
    diet that I could do and still be safe for my kidneys --
    for my kidney?

    ATKINS: Well, I would say so. The kidney infection had
    nothing to do with the diet. And there is no question that
    people with one kidney can follow the diet if that kidney
    is normal. There is no question. It has been done thousands
    of times.

    KING: What's the toughest part of starting?

    ATKINS: Well, the toughest part of starting for some people
    is getting rid of your addictions. In other words, some
    people are addicted to sweets and they have to go through
    withdrawal symptoms. Some people are addicted to alcohol.
    They have to go through withdrawal symptoms for that. A few
    other things.

    KING: But you have some substitutes you could do?

    ATKINS: Well, when I really have a person like that I tell
    them to just gradually decrease it and then by the seventh
    day they could be on the induction level because they would
    have gotten down slowly to zero.

    KING: What about sweeteners? The NutriSweet and...

    ATKINS: I like sucralose, which is in Splenda. I consider
    that to be...

    KING: It's the yellow package, right?

    ATKINS: The aspertame is the one that I think can cause
    some problems. The others are healthy if you like them.

    KING: Colas?

    ATKINS: Colas.

    KING: Diet Coke.

    ATKINS: Well, if a Diet Coke has aspartame, it's not as
    good as if it has sucralose and there are diet colas that
    do have sucralose.

    KING: So you would look for sucralose?

    ATKINS: Right.

    KING: Peoria, Illinois, hello.

    CALLER: Hello. In your book you say that you should not eat
    bacon or sausage with sodium nitrate. How important is it
    to stay away from sodium nitrate?

    ATKINS: All right. That's a minor point, because that's
    just a -- to talk about the fact that nitrates -- nitrates
    are a little dangerous.

    KING: What are nitrates?

    ATKINS: That's one of the ingredients that if you eat a lot
    of them, you can run into some medical problems.

    KING: Did you say don't eat sausage and bacon or do eat
    sausage and bacon?

    ATKINS: Well, I allow a moderate amount because I don't
    think it has enough -- when you can get the organic type
    without the nitrates in it you can have all you want.

    KING: Where do you get organic...

    ATKINS: In the health food stores.

    KING: You get organic bacon?

    ATKINS: Well, you get the kind of free range bacon that
    doesn't have nitrates in it, yes.

    KING: OK. Macon, Georgia, hello.

    Hello?

    Macon, are you there?

    CALLER: Yes.

    KING: Go ahead. Speak up.

    CALLER: Dr. Atkins.

    ATKINS: Yes.

    CALLER: Before I started your diet, I used to have to take
    heartburn and acid reflux medication every night. But once
    I started your diet, I no longer had to take that. Does
    your diet have anything to do with me not having the
    heartburn and the acid reflux any longer?

    ATKINS: Oh, that's very, very common. Of course it has to
    do with that. There's no question if you went off the diet,
    you would get your heartburn again.

    KING: Because?

    ATKINS: We don't know why but we assume there is something
    in carbohydrate that would aggravate the stomach function.
    Because that's the one thing that's restricted.

    KING: It's very hard, though to get people to think that
    high fat is good because...

    ATKINS: You think so?

    KING: Yes, I'll tell you why. Because fat is a bad word.
    Fat means fat. Fat equals -- I'll be fat if I eat fat.

    Two, fat is too good. And something that good for your --
    you're telling me put sweet cream on my Special K and
    that's better than skim milk on my Special K. Sounds weird
    to me.

    ATKINS: It's good. You've got the answer. It is good. It is
    enjoyable and it doesn't have carbohydrate. Carbohydrate is
    the bad guy. You have to see that. You told people go on
    low fat diet, look at how much more carbohydrate they began
    eating and that's what caused the epidemic of obesity and
    of diabetes.

    KING: So in other words, what you're saying is, we have an
    epidemic of obesity caused by people pushing low fat diets.

    ATKINS: Exactly. A hundred percent correct. May I shake
    your hand? That's perfect.

    KING: Where did I go right? I don't know what I'm saying.
    It just seems that the fact -- I've had people say it's a
    rule that if it tastes good, it is bad for you.

    ATKINS: Oh, have you got that wrong. If it tastes good, you
    can stay on it for life. Just pick a healthy food that
    tastes good and that's what Atkins does.

    KING: What do people tell you is the hardest thing for them
    to give up?

    ATKINS: Oh, boy. Everybody has -- everybody has their
    favorite.

    KING: I would guess bread.

    ATKINS: Well, maybe. A lot of people say bread. A lot of
    people say pasta. A lot of people say sweets.

    KING: So you're telling me when you order spaghetti and
    meatballs, you just eat the meatballs.

    ATKINS: I wouldn't order spaghetti and meatballs, I would
    just order the meatballs.

    KING: That was a joke. A little levity.

    OK. We'll be back with our remaining moments with Dr.
    Robert Atkins. Get some more phone calls in after these
    words.

    (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

    KING: We're back with Dr. Atkins. one of our crew had an
    outstanding question. What about portions? Can you eat all
    the steak you want?

    ATKINS: Well, the portions should be just enough that
    you're not hungry. Because we don't want anybody hungry,
    but we don't want anybody to just eat beyond that. So, It
    is just perfect. Nobody will be hungry. For a lifetime now,
    you never going to be hungry. That's the superiority of our
    diet.

    KING: Cleveland, Ohio, hello. CALLER: Yes, Dr. Atkins,
    first I wanted to thank you. I've been on your diet for
    three years now. I've lost over 150 pounds. I've been able
    to keep it off. So that's very important to me. My wife,
    however, has a concern and that is she's been reading a lot
    about the mad cow disease that is being held in beef and
    I'm curious if you had any comments about that?

    ATKINS: We haven't had any mad cow disease in the United
    States. So it is really nothing to worry about. It doesn't
    affect anybody -- hasn't...

    KING: How many died altogether? Did many die in Europe?

    ATKINS: That I don't know. It is pretty rare.

    KING: Pensacola, Florida, hello.

    CALLER: Yes. Thank you. Dr. Atkins, first I want to tell
    you thank you for sticking to your guns. I've been on the
    program since February 4 and I've lost 55 pounds.

    ATKINS: Good year.

    CALLER: My question is, whenever I try find my critical
    carbohydrate level for losing, and I get to the -- you
    know, you tell us about the five pound mark, well, if I add
    an extra bowl of brock broccoli to my supper, I'm getting
    that five pounds back. What is going on?

    ATKINS: Well you actually are a slower loser than you
    should be. So you're not on any medications are you.

    CALLER: No, sir, I'm not.

    ATKINS: OK, then which I stop one of our first callers, you
    should really check your temperature to see if perhaps you
    don't have a sluggish thyroid because that may be the
    answer.

    KING: Staten Island, New York. Hello.

    CALLER: Yes, Hi.

    Dr. Atkins my husband has been on the diet for six months
    and lost 30 pounds. He's been on medication from the
    beginning, blood pressure medication and cholesterol
    medication. His blood work is wonderful now. But he's on a
    plateau now. He can't seem to lose for the last month.

    ATKINS: What is the hypertensive medication he's on?

    CALLER: I'm not sure the name of it.

    ATKINS: Well, basicly most of the hypertensive medications
    prevent weight loss or slow it down and he probably has a
    perfectly normal blood pressure. Since you live in Staten
    Island, you should really -- come and see me in Manhattan.
    At the Atkins Center. Because we -- we get people off of
    their medication all the time.

    KING: People fly in to see you, I know.

    ATKINS: Yes.

    KING: You can contact the Atkins Center in New York.

    ATKINS: All over the world, not just the U.S..

    KING: Living right there that is what I would do.

    North Brook, Illinois, hello.

    CALLER: Hi, gentlemen.

    I'm interested in the Atkins products and how you feel that
    they may inhibit or help the weight loss program.

    KING: You sell products?

    ATKINS: Yes. Atkins Nutritional sells products. And it's
    some very good products. We're not the only company that
    does it.

    KING: Where do you get it, health food stores?

    ATKINS: Health food stores carry them. You can logon to the
    website and call Atkins Nutritionals.

    KING: What kind of products?

    ATKINS: Well, we have chocolate things and they're called
    Advantage Bars, protein bars. We have about 80 different
    products. I mean, the whole breakfast, a lot of -- we have
    low carb bread. We have chocolate drinks and other drinks
    that are delicious and we will have ice cream in a few
    months.

    KING: You ship it out?

    ATKINS: Shipped out right away.

    KING: New York City, hello.

    CALLER: New York, New York.

    KING: New York, New York.

    CALLER: I have an event coming up in two weeks and I would
    like to lose a quick ten pounds. What is the surest and
    fastest way to do that.

    ATKINS: Well, the average weight loss of our induction is
    about ten pounds in two weeks.

    KING: You live in New York, go see him tomorrow.

    ATKINS: Not tomorrow. I'll be flying back to New York. No,
    go on the diet because you only have two weeks. It should
    take off ten pounds in two weeks. That's all you have to
    do.

    KING: How do you feel now? We have about a minute left, do
    you feel like -- well, yes, I told you so?

    ATKINS: Yes, definitely feel that way. And I must say I
    feel very happy having spent the hour with you. Really
    makes me feel good. And in general I feel that I've got to
    do the next step of my life which is to put an end to the
    epidemic proportions of diabesity. And that's the book
    after this one...

    KING: About diabesity.

    ATKINS: Yes.

    KING: Because diabetes is our third most killer, right.

    ATKINS: And that definitely comes from carbohydrates. Check
    your blood sugar after a regular meal and see how many
    points it goes up and after one of our meals and see how
    few points it goes up and you'll see right away that is
    what you should do.

    KING: Always great seeing you.

    ATKINS: Good. Always great being here.

    KING: Dr. Robert Atkins, cardiologist, founder of the
    Atkins Center for Complementary Medicine, author of "Atkins
    For Life, the Complete Control Carb Program For Permanent
    Weight And Good Health" and you can website him at the
    atkinscenter.com. I'll be back in a minute to tell you
    about tomorrow night. Don't go way.

    (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

    KING: Tomorrow night on LARRY KING LIVE, Sarah Ferguson,
    the Duchess of York will be flying in from New York to
    appear with us. We look forward to that.
     
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    Ja, cooles Interview. Nichts wirklich neues, aber trotzdem interessant zu lesen.
     
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    Sehe ich genauso, war interessant zu lesen, danke! :)
     
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    Ich schließe mich an, interessant zu lesen. Habe aber vor Jahren schon mal in einem Magazin etwas ähnliches gelesen.
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    KING: ...Can you eat all
    the steak you want?

    ATKINS: Well, the portions should be just enough that
    you're not hungry...

    Für mich die wichtigste Aussage.:wink:
     
  10. Honeylein

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    Das sehe ich auch so.

    Essen bis man zufrieden ist, nicht vollstopfen und nicht unbedingt 5 Eier oder 3 Steaks auf einmal.

    Super zu lesen wie es der Meister handhabte.
     
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    Onkel Martin - eben doch

    Für mich sind die Bilder am Ende des Interviews fast am Wichtigsten.
    wenn so ein Übergewichtiger ausschaut, dann bin ich ein Freiballon.

    Martin
     
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    Leider finde ich keine Bilder (mehr) vor ... ? Aber ich weiß auch so schon, dass Atkins von seinen Gegnern offenbar verleumdet wurde: Sein Unfalltod durch Glatteis und daraus folgende Kopfverletzung wurde ja immer wieder als Herztod durch Verfettung (!) dargestellt. Unglaublich - wer tut so etwas?
     
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